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Max Power
12-29-2002, 10:55 AM
Is it this easy to get your own town? I guess so? If you own the town, can you make your own laws? Could you open a Bunny Ranch? Could you make it tax-free to live there? Could you open a casino? It's probably not all the easy, right?

Town Sold on eBay For $1.77 Mill
SAN FRANCISCO (Dec. 28) - Sold: a fixer-upper Northern California town, for nearly $1.8 million - on Internet auction site eBay. Now tiny Bridgeville waits to see who its new owner is.

If the deal goes through as expected, 82 acres of Bridgeville will go to the unidentified buyer who put in a bid for $1,777,877 just seconds before the Internet auction closed Friday.

Joe Lapple, who owns Bridgeville along with his wife Elizabeth, said he hopes the new owner will fix up the town, which dates back to the 19th century. But the Lapples won't be hanging around to find out. They've already purchased a new home in Fortuna, about 25 miles away.

``We were just waiting to sell this town and pack up all our stuff and be gone,'' said Joe Lapple.

Bridgeville is the first town to be sold on the Web site, said eBay spokesman Kevin Pursglove. Almost 250 bids were cast during the town's month on the electronic auction block.

``I would say that's above average. That's a pretty heavy level of bidding activity,'' Pursglove said.

The town, which Elizabeth Lapple acknowledged was a fixer-upper, comes complete with a post office, a mile and a half of river bank, a cemetery and more than a dozen cabins and houses. ``Your own zip code will now be 95526,'' the eBay description reads.

About 20 people live in the area affected by the sale; whether they get to stay in the rental properties is entirely up to the new owners, said Denise Stuart, the real estate agent who placed the listing. She said about 600 people live in the surrounding areas.

Bidding went well beyond the asking price of $775,000. It started Nov. 27 at $5,000.

Bridgeville is located 260 miles north of San Francisco in rural Humboldt County. Lapple and her husband Joe have owned the town since 1985.

After conventional means of selling proved unsuccessful, the Lapples decided to try their luck on eBay. They say they put the town up for auction because they couldn't afford the estimated cost of renovating it - about $200,000.

Joe Lapple said the highest bid was more than he expected.

``A million and a half, I figured that was the right price,'' he said.

Final bids for real estate posted on eBay aren't binding.

``It's up to the seller and the high bidder to negotiate how they are going to consummate the deal'' after bidding ends, Pursglove said. ``They'll close the deal offline.''

Stuart said she's received calls from people around the world since bidding closed. Some have offered to buy the property for $2 million.

But the Lapples will stick with the eBay bidder, someone from out of the area who wanted to let the purchase ``sink in'' before coming forward publicly, Stuart said. She expects the deal to be completed within 60 days.

Although there's been interest in the property over the years, no one ever met the asking price - much less offered more than twice that price - until it was posted on eBay.

12/28/02 20:59 EST

WiredTiger
12-30-2002, 10:14 AM
I am sure you are still binded by the state and federal laws. Anything else is probably up for grabs. 1.7 million doesn't seem to shabby.

Duque
12-30-2002, 01:22 PM
I guess you could make yourself kinda of a Boss Hogg - but like WT said, you're still subject to state and county laws. Sorry, no bunny ranch.

But maybe in the future, the Brooklyn Bridge might actually be for sale on eBay?

Ytown Tribe fan
12-30-2002, 02:47 PM
Last time a town was bought up for way over market price, it was in Oregon. The Moonies bought it and threatened to poison all their neighbors.

Skip
12-30-2002, 04:05 PM
Kim Basinger bought some southern town right? Then she went bankrupt? Whatever happened there?

Max Power
12-30-2002, 04:18 PM
What about DMV and things like that? Would you control that?

satchel
12-30-2002, 05:05 PM
DMV is also a state-level agency - take a look at your driver's license and registration. They are issued by the state, not by the town you reside in.

Generally, the power that local governments have to pass ordinances is fairly limited by state constitutions and state and federal laws. Local governments can pass ordinances preventing some conduct that might be allowed in other parts of the state (for example, you have dry towns in states where alcohol is otherwise legal), and parking regulations, and some land-use regulation. But local governments won't be able to erase the laws passed by higher governments, because the state constitution will have a supremacy clause just like the federal constitution has.

Max Power
12-30-2002, 05:52 PM
As soon as I typed that, I realized it was stupid. Too lazy to edit - - rather be stupid than have to work, I guess? :D

I wonder 'tho - - - if you had your own town, could you build a church or some house of worship and then claim to be tax-free on everything?

Could you rename the town to something cool - - I dunno, something, and then make a mint of the postal cancelations on special envelopes?

There has to be an angle here.........

Skip
12-30-2002, 07:09 PM
My friends and I invented a new church while on co-op in college. I'll be happy to evangelize here if you'd like ....

satchel
12-31-2002, 09:01 AM
Originally posted by Skip
My friends and I invented a new church while on co-op in college. I'll be happy to evangelize here if you'd like ....
Hey! That's against forum rules. :nono:

I think it would be no harder or easier to make money from owning a town than it would be from owning any other real estate. You still have to make it interesting or desirable in order to induce people to put money into your local economy. Add to that the fact that you have to supply infrastructure like water, electricity, garbage collection, and public protection (probably by contracting with the state or county services) and it may be easier just to own a non-sovereign parcel of land and build a theme park or something. ;)

I wouldn't think the tax-break idea would work. If you build a church, then perhaps the church will be tax-free, but nonchurch actviities will not be. There are perhaps other tax incentives you could take advantage of to stimulate your local economy, but those would probably be available to ordinary business developers as well.

Disney had some scheme where it founded its own town and built houses and infrastructure and moved people into it. I can't remember what the point was, and I don't think it worked out all that well. I'll see if I can find some information about it.

satchel
12-31-2002, 09:03 AM
Here's a piece on the Disney town, Celebration, FL:
http://eclipse.barnard.columbia.edu/~mc802/bookreview.html

Here's another one:
http://www.themagicalmouse.com/celebration/

The place is kind of scary. It's a hyper-planned community.

WiredTiger
01-02-2003, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by Max Power

Could you rename the town to something cool - - I dunno, something, and then make a mint of the postal cancelations on special envelopes?

There has to be an angle here.........
There are several towns that have renamed themselves to make money. Truth or Consequences, NM from the old TV show. Half.com, OR after the website.

gyb13
01-02-2003, 02:29 PM
and don't forget Joe, Montana.