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Max Power
12-07-2002, 11:30 AM
http://www.morganquitno.com/cit03pop.htm#25

any shocks here?

pathogan
12-07-2002, 01:10 PM
...N.O. and D.C. arent higher, and that NYC is that low...here's my guess, somehow, for some weird reason, alot of crime went unreported in the wake of 9/11.the nice story that criminal beahaviour ceased out of respect is nonsense,a sweet fiction....that is the reason the NYC's #'s are so low this year...wait a year, with the economy in the crapper

Craig S.
12-07-2002, 01:28 PM
I'm pretty surprised at seeing Dayton so high on the list of the most dangerous cities. To me, it always seemed pretty quiet, but I guess I must not hit the bad parts of town.

Skip
12-07-2002, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by Craig S.
I'm pretty surprised at seeing Dayton so high on the list of the most dangerous cities. To me, it always seemed pretty quiet, but I guess I must not hit the bad parts of town. Seems I read a few years ago about Dayton being really big in drug trafficking and/or use. Several major arrests in Ky and maybe further south were traced back through Dayton somehow. I can't remember the details.

hmrsf
12-08-2002, 09:11 AM
Seems about right to me.

pwdennis
12-08-2002, 10:11 PM
Safety is a matter of perception. Within each major metropolitan area there are both safe and dangerous areas. My own perception is that Norfolk, VA and Baltimore, MD have some of the more dangerous areas I've been in, but the statistics don't necessarily bear this out

satchel
12-09-2002, 05:34 PM
Originally posted by pathogan
...N.O. and D.C. arent higher, and that NYC is that low...here's my guess, somehow, for some weird reason, alot of crime went unreported in the wake of 9/11.the nice story that criminal beahaviour ceased out of respect is nonsense,a sweet fiction....that is the reason the NYC's #'s are so low this year...wait a year, with the economy in the crapper

For someone who lives in NYC, you are surprisingly hard on it. New York is very safe for a big city. In absolute numbers there is a lot of crime, but there are also a lot of people. In terms of violent crimes per capita, New York is very, very safe. Compare other cities of comparable size like Chicago and LA. Compare smaller cities like DC and Oakland. When I have a moment I'll see if I can find more numbers. New York really does compare favorably to other large cities.

I only took a quick look at the numbers cited here, but I didn't notice any appreciable change between 2000 and 2001; and I've never heard anyone make the 9/11 argument you cite above. What are you referring to? If there's been no real change in the crime numbers then there's no need to explain a change by any post 9/11 niceness effect.

Ytown Tribe fan
12-09-2002, 07:58 PM
WE'RE NUMBER FOUR! WE'RE NUMBER FOUR!

rcartman28
12-10-2002, 09:39 AM
I'm not surprised that St. Louis is rated the most dangerous city, having lived there about ten years ago and being the victim of several crimes while there. Nice to see that six of the thirteen "safest" metropolitan areas are in my home state of Wisconsin, except that I don't live in any of those. Little surprised to see Savannah rated the 7th most dangerous--never thought of Savannah as being dangerous.......

WiredTiger
12-10-2002, 11:30 AM
Detroit City! Number 2!

Suprisingly, four of the top 25 safest cities are Detroit suburbs. I am closer to and spend more time in those suburbs than I do in Detroit City. Detroit really is a split city. Oakland County is one of the richest counties in the nation and it is only 20 miles north of downtown Detroit.

gyb13
12-16-2002, 07:03 PM
there are a lot of missing areas in the study, most notably Chicago (and pretty much all of Illinois). See http://www.morganquitno.com/methodology03.htm

this is my favorite:

Most Dangerous Metropolitan Areas:
19 Phoenix-Mesa AZ

those bloody mormons...