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SmedIndy
07-12-2002, 12:44 AM
"Old Hoss" is an attempt to write a biography of a man who left little to write about.

In this book by James W. Bennett and Donald Raycraft, they create a "fictional" biography. Basically, connecting the dots in the life of Old Hoss.

To do this, they create a sportswriter character covering an event honoring Old Hoss in Bloomington, Illinois in 1941 that Clark Griffith attended (this was an actual event). The reporter uncovers facts about Old Hoss from Griffith and research.

The story isn't pleasant. Old Hoss is a drinking man, a womanizer. He's rude, crude, and unpleasant. But he can pitch, and win. Along the way he contracts VD, which basically leads to the end of his career and his death at an early age. Some of the stories may offend some readers, however, it probably was quite an accurate portrayal of many things that happened in baseball in the 1880's and 1890's.

Old Hoss is an intriguing character, and he'd fill 500 pages if he lived now. Back then, no one thought to chronicle it all, and this is the best we can do.

JamesI
07-12-2002, 12:47 AM
I wonder if there is any corralation between the character in the book and Old Hoss Radbourn?

johnny
07-12-2002, 12:47 AM
cool! is this a new book?

is Hoss the guy that suffered a shotgun blast to the face later in life?

SmedIndy
07-12-2002, 12:57 AM
Originally posted by JamesI
I wonder if there is any corralation between the character in the book and Old Hoss Radbourn?

It's supposed to be his life story, taking some factual accounts and dramatizing them...

SmedIndy
07-12-2002, 12:58 AM
Originally posted by johnny
cool! is this a new book?

is Hoss the guy that suffered a shotgun blast to the face later in life?

Yeah, it came out this year.

Hoss had paresis caused by "The French Pox" (VD), and the authors speculate (like many did) that the hunting "accident" was a suicide attempt.

VNV Nation
07-12-2002, 01:15 AM
How credible is this information though?

One guy I would like to know more about is Billy Hamilton. It was a running game, but Hamilton stole so many more bases than anyone else and scored so many more runs, and he had an evocative nickname...i just can't believe there isn't more known about him.

Smed, I always think of Billy Hamilton as a 19th-century Brett Butler, but maybe faster...what do you think?

SmedIndy
07-12-2002, 10:41 AM
The bare bone facts are credible and in the proper timeline.

The details of Old Hoss' life they had to embellish. They fictionalized a meeting between Radbourn, the owner of the Grays, and the manager of the Grays. The meeting happened (this was to reinstate him after his suspension when Sweeney bolted) but there was no record of what was said or what went on. This was their "recreation" of it.

I think Billy was a cross between Butler and Rickey, myself.

KCBOOMER
07-12-2002, 10:56 AM
I am an avid reader of history but I hate "historical" novels. Still one slice of bread to a starving man is better than none.