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cubfan33
07-04-2002, 11:50 PM
Fireworks are pretty cool.

Remember a while back when I quoted MLB.com as a reliable source? Forget it, I was so far off base it's not funny. There is a LOT of good work there, especially on the team sites, but when it comes to labor info, it's flat out bogus. Barry Bloom, the "freelance" writer, who agreed to an interview with UTK is now claiming he will only conduct interviews with presubmitted questions. If the players think they can strike without damaging the game, they're wrong. If the owners think they can claim financial brinksmanship with the same accounting as Worldcom and Enron, they're VERY wrong. A strike date WILL be set and the public relations spin on both sides is beginning. Budzilla's cronies, starting with Red Sox ownership, is starting to line up behind Bud. Call me when a non-obvious candidate like Peter Magowan or Howard Lincoln says something. Better yet, let's hear George Steinbrenner - does Bud think a million dollar fine will keep the Boss' mouth shut?

I mention Voros McCracken for the first time and boom, there's Voros news, sort of. Again, if you haven't checked out his work, it's some of the most groundbreaking research done in baseball in years. At the recent SABR convention (and if any readers went - I know we have SABR members here - I'd love to hear more about it), there was an extension of Voros' original work. To summarize it, defense may be more important than we thought ... and Billy Beane evidently was - once again - one step ahead of everyone in baseball. There's a great column by the always excellent Rob Neyer at his website that goes into a lot more detail, so be sure to check it out. I think Rob does a better job of making stathead stuff readable than anyone else.

The big injury news of the night is Derek Jeter's knee. The Yankee shortstop got rolled up on by John McDonald in a clean, hard slide and was helped from the field. The injury is being reported as a bruised leg, but an MRI will be conducted tonight or early tomorrow (depending on swelling) to determine if there is ligament damage in his knee. Losing Jeter for any period of time would be very bad, if not devastating for the Yanks. I'm guessing from the video, but I don't think that Jeter will have much beyond a Grade I sprain (the most minor type.) There's a more technical description here if interested.

The Yankees will also skip Roger Clemens' next start, or rather, Clemens will skip his next start while the rest of the Yankees are forced to play behind another pitcher. Clemens is dealing with a number of minor injuries and left his last start with leg cramps. The skip and the ASB should give Clemens the rest he needs to be more effective than he has in his last few starts.

Todd Stottlemyre didn't last a week before his elbow broke down again. He had surgery last night after bone chips were rubbing against a nerve in his elbow, causing what's described as "mindbending pain." While the surgery is minor, at what point does Stottlemyre hang it up?

Are you frickin' kidding me? The Phillies tried the hidden ball trick tonight against the Expos. Larry Bowa should be fined - or if Tomas Perez called for it himself, he should be suspended for idiocy. Worse, the play caught Brian Schneider off the bag but time had been called by the home plate ump.

As reported last night, Travis Lee has an injured shoulder. The new info is that the Phils placed him on the DL with the problem. Jeremy Giambi was able to play and will likely get the bulk of the starts at first base while Lee is out.

Charles Johnson left tonight's game with back spasms, never a good thing for a catcher to have. Johnson's been off all year, so this could be merely the first reported problem rather than the first actual problem. The Fish are calling it day to day, but he's scheduled to see the team ortho tomorrow.

Its a bad sign when a pitcher's name and Jim Andrews are in the same sentence. It must be a multiplier if you toss in Scott Boras. (Just kidding, Scott.) Rick Ankiel has been unable to rehab during his time in Peoria (an option, not a rehab assignment as is often incorrectly reported) and Boras has inquired to Walt Jocketty about seeing Dr. Andrews for a second opinion. There was an interesting theory put forward by a leading ortho that "Steve Blass Disease" may in fact have some connection to a damaned ulnar collateral ligament, born out by Mark Wohlers and a few others. It's certainly worth a look at Ankiel - he's young and has undeniable talent.

Carlos Beltran gets the big flinch award tonight. Beltran had his great toe's toenail split when John Olerud accidentally spiked him. I'm not sure what Olerud is wearing, but the spike not only caused the damage, but penetrated Beltran's shoe. While the injury won't be chronic, it does have to hurt like the devil. Give him credit for playing tonight.

The Royals also have their other good player hurting. Mike Sweeney was hit by a pitch, cutting his finger open and resulting in two stitches. Mike Sweeney is not a hockey player. Luckily, the finger was not broken and Sweeney will only miss a shift, I mean, a game and should be available tomorrow.

Al Levine is not healing on schedule and is forcing the Angels to look more closely at the trade market. The Cubs are the most often rumored trade partner, with the most likely deal I've heard being Jeff Fassero and Tom Gordon to the Angels for Shawn Wooten (currently rehabbing and about two weeks away) and a single A third baseman I know nothing about named Duncan.

Damian Miller has missed two straight games with tendonitis, making his appalling selection the the ASG doubtful. Miller is a fine catcher and from all accounts a nice guy, despite his treatment by MLBPA, but that's one selection that's clearly bad. Paul LoDuca is having the better year, but then again, Jim Tracy isn't managing the National League.

Ok, ok. C.C. Sabathia is dating Serena Williams, not Venus. They both scare me anyway.

Next report tomorrow. Look for me over on Netshrine ... OR check for me on Yahoo Messenger. I'm "cubfan333" there and love talking baseball. Add me to your buddy lists and if nothing else, say hi.

soxfan121
07-05-2002, 12:18 AM
1. Whoa there big fella!!!! ;) Suspended?! For the hidden ball trick?! C'mon...I love the hidden ball trick when its done properly. Trickery and deception have been around a long time; nice to see some old school chicanery executed by one of the super utility guys in the league, Tomas Perez.

2. Now that I've chewed ya out, :D could you do us a solid and provide some more info on the Wohlers-"Blass"-elbow problems-Ankiel thingy? Who are the others? Did any of them ever make it back to being stars? Thanks!

SmedIndy
07-05-2002, 12:18 AM
What's wrong with the hidden ball trick, man? Gotta love subterfuge and skullduggery!

cubfan33
07-05-2002, 12:32 AM
Ok, I hate Bowa almost as much as Bobby V, so any excuse to get rid of him.

I think the hidden ball trick is absolutely bush league. If there was one unwritten rule I'd follow, its that you don't insult either the opponents or the fans intelligence. The rule clearly states that the trick should be illegal. The Phils play stayed within the rules and if Schneider had been out, he'd forever be on my merde list.

And yes, more info on the Blass/Tommy John connection to follow. I'll likely put it in tomorrow's piece.

CubFan7125
07-05-2002, 12:34 AM
The hidden ball trick is Little League - & it shouldn't even work there

Max Power
07-05-2002, 12:35 AM
Originally posted by cubfan33
I think the hidden ball trick is absolutely bush league.

:loud: Wasn't Don Baylor the first to say that? ;)

CubFan7125
07-05-2002, 12:42 AM
Originally posted by Max Power


:loud: Wasn't Don Baylor the first to say that? ;) :) :) Maybe Will & Don Baylor are really the same person & we are all living in a alternate universe:) :)
LOL

Bobby V. & Larry B. would still be idiot's no matter what universe or reality we were in

SmedIndy
07-05-2002, 01:01 AM
Yes, but the hidden ball trick is classic. If it works in the bigs, the better. Those guys should know better.

My all-time favorite ruse was the infamous College World Series deke Miami did with Neal Heaton on the mound. (Fake throw to first with the foot off the rubber, the entire Miami bench acts like an overthrow happened, runner blythely jogs to second where he's tagged out non-chalantly).

Baseball is a much richer game because those kind of plays happened. The no-fun-niks in football outlawed the fumble-rooski. Why not have the occasional deke, deception, ruse, or skulduggery?

Skip
07-05-2002, 01:26 AM
I am totally with Smed on this one. If you are stupid or careless enough to get nailed by something as "Little League" as the hidden ball trick, you deserve it. And, ... it's fun as heck for the fans.

johnny
07-05-2002, 02:07 AM
Originally posted by cubfan33
I'm guessing from the video, but I don't think that Jeter will have much beyond a Grade I sprain (the most minor type.) There's a more technical description here if interested.



yes, please :)

poorme
07-05-2002, 08:56 AM
I like the hidden ball trick. Haven't seen it in years.

NCFella19
07-06-2002, 11:50 AM
I'm reading "Cobb" now by Al Stump, and just read the most CLASSIC hidden ball trick:

- Cobb makes arrangements for his barber, who sits along the first-base line, to yell "it's in the bullpen!"

- Cobb, on first base, wiggles and worms and gets the pitcher to throw over to first.

- Cobb purposely moves his hip into the throw to knock it down, and in the ensuing dust cloud, rolls over on it and hides it in his jersey.

- the barber now screams "it's in the bullpen!" and players frantically run over to look for it.

- meanwhile Cobb races to 3rd, and while the umpire is busy looking over to 1st, re-hides the ball under the loose, saggy base

- after the inning, a bat-boy comes out to third to "fluff up" the bag, bends over to "tie his shoe" and retrieves the ball

Amusing.

soxfan121
07-06-2002, 12:31 PM
Originally posted by johnny
yes, please :)

Johnny, the links from the emailed UTK don't show up in the forum...so here's the link that went with the Jeter story.

http://www.orthoassociates.com/knee_lig.htm

johnny
07-09-2002, 09:47 AM
Originally posted by soxfan121


Johnny, the links from the emailed UTK don't show up in the forum...so here's the link that went with the Jeter story.

http://www.orthoassociates.com/knee_lig.htm

thanks for the info soxfan :)

sweaver
07-09-2002, 10:07 AM
Originally posted by SmedIndy
What's wrong with the hidden ball trick, man? Gotta love subterfuge and skullduggery!
Subterfuge and Skullduggery, Attorneys at Law.

moose
07-09-2002, 11:36 AM
Originally posted by sweaver

Subterfuge and Skullduggery, Attorneys at Law. be nice... :D

KCBOOMER
07-09-2002, 12:21 PM
Youth and ability are no match for old age and treachery.

NCFella19
07-09-2002, 07:53 PM
KCBOOMER - Youth and ability are no match for old age and treachery.

Classic!