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Sablewolf
04-09-2002, 09:09 AM
I was having a discussion on this with some buddies of mine and wanted to get some takes from you guys on this. I'm relatively new here, but you may have noticed I'm a bit of an Astros homer, but the concensus we came to was there were 3 we could come up with that stood out bove the others we could pull from our heads - Gherig and Lazzeri from the Murderer's Row Yanks; Morgan and Perez from the Big Red Machine; and we all seem to think that Bagwell and Biggio are now making a case for being on the short list. Any thoughts on our list, or any great tandems I'm missing? Obviously at this point I personally think the Gherig-Lazerri combo is tops, but I like to think that with a few more seasons Bags and Bidge might make a run at it ...
Fritz Buelow
04-09-2002, 11:22 AM
Don't forget Gehringer and Greenberg.
WiredTiger
04-09-2002, 12:05 PM
I would think that Gehringer and Greenberg would trump Gehrig and Lazzeri. Gehringer was better and played for a lot longer than Lazzeri.
pathogan
04-09-2002, 12:21 PM
Charlie was a better second baseman,and hank might be the greatest underrrated player of all time:2cents: :2cents:
KCBOOMER
04-09-2002, 05:43 PM
Robinson and Hodges wouldn't be too bad.
moose
04-09-2002, 06:40 PM
definitely balboni and white. definitely.
Duque
04-09-2002, 09:04 PM
Foxx and Doerr?
Thome and Alomar?

Just tossing those out there. In terms of games played together, it will end up Bagwell and Biggio.
Sablewolf
04-09-2002, 09:24 PM
Yeah, I don't think Thome and Alomar played together long enough to rate with some of the others, besides the fact I'm not that big a fan of a high strike out low contact guy like Thome. Bagwell may have one of the more unorthodox swings ever for any great hitter, and does not hit situationally quite as much as I wish he did, but he is very disciplined, with an OBP ~well over .400 career ...
pwdennis
04-09-2002, 10:39 PM
This is a pretty unimportant area of discussion in that 1B/2B are not usually conceptualized as a unit and the degree of defensive interplay and interdependence is very small, unless the 2B is very scatter-armed and needs a 1B with great reach to bail them out. Joe Morgan - Tony Perez is as good a combo as any, but it's not of very much importance
SmedIndy
04-09-2002, 10:47 PM
Lopes and Garvey deserve a cursory mention for something.

It sure the heck ain't Greg Brock and Jim Gantner.
gyb13
04-10-2002, 01:32 AM
Karros and Grudzielanek, though don't count out Kevin Young and Pokey Reese....:D
sweaver
04-10-2002, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by pwdennis
1B/2B are not usually conceptualized as a unit and the degree of defensive interplay and interdependence is very small....... Joe Morgan - Tony Perez is as good a combo as any

Sure they are: right side of the infield;)

I'll second Perez and Morgan. They did complement each other: Tony had a hard time with popups, so little Joe took everything he could get to on that side.
Baudib
04-10-2002, 09:32 PM
Bagwell-Biggio.


I'm sure it's not the best, but if you're going on a single year, Alomar-Olerud 1993 is up there. They were probably the two best players in the league.
moose
04-11-2002, 12:53 AM
Originally posted by Baudib
Bagwell-Biggio.


I'm sure it's not the best, but if you're going on a single year, Alomar-Olerud 1993 is up there. They were probably the two best players in the league.

I think there are valid arguments for Hurt, Griff, and Molitor having marginally better years in 1993 than Olereud, but I don't think you're going wrong by citing him amongst the tops.