Boomer Let's Go Again

[NetShrine]

At least he didn't do an interview with Crack Whore Hoochies:

Monday, May 21
Wells takes shots at Valentine, Cleveland
ESPN.com news services

After taking on Frank Thomas earlier this season, White Sox pitcher David Wells took some shots at Bobby Valentine and the city of Cleveland, calling the Mets manager a derogatory name and a "loser" and saying "Cleveland sucks" in an interview with Playboy.com.

Before he was traded from Toronto to Chicago, Wells said in the interview that he was hoping to go to the Mets.

"I did want to go back to New York, but I knew if I did it would have been disastrous with me and Bobby Valentine there," Wells said. "There's no love lost between us."

Wells then called Valentine a derogatory name before continuing: "You ever watch a Mets game? Who do they show, always? ... He knows where the cameras are. One day, I was pitching against the Mets, and he get thrown out and tries to come back in disguise. What a loser. Just go to the office and go have a beer and watch it on TV."

Wells said the Indians are the lone team for which he never would play.

"Cleveland sucks. The team's good. It's the way (the Cleveland fans) treated me in '98 when we beat them in the playoffs," Wells said of his days with the Yankees. "My mom had just died and some of the fans were heckling me when I was warming up, and it got carried away and then before you know it you got 50 or 60 people talking about my mom. It carried on every year after that. We went there Opening Day this year, and I went out to warm up and some dude, just loud as he could, yells, 'Where's your mother at?' "It's (stuff) like that you gotta hear from low-rent scumbags in Cleveland. But it catches on, so everybody starts to talk about my mom. I can't even go out there. People start throwing crap at me, start confrontations. So I just stay in my room and watch TV."

Wells said if the White Sox were to trade Wells to Cleveland he would retire.

"They can take their money and keep it because I would not go," he said.

[Jen]

:loud: Cleveland sucks :loud:

I, uhhh, have to agree with him on that. The fans can be downright rude. But he was still treated like royalty by the rest of the city, so what's his beef? I remember last year when the Blue Jays came to town, The Who were playing the night of their first game and he went to see them (as did I) and everyone rolled out the red carpet for him at the concert. And then he partied too much in The Flats (he was pitching the next afternoon) and had to be taken out of the game in the 2nd or 3rd inning. So what the hell is he talking about "I can't even go out there"? That's just crap.

[NetShrine]

Great inside dope - thanks Jen.
There's a few girlie bars over in the flats too, no? (Tiffany's?) Betcha he never had a problem in any of those?

[Jen]

You're welcome for the dope. (Man, I hope the FBI doesn't read your board. :D)

It's funny who you might bump into in the Flats (and yes, there are lots of cathouses there, and I bet Boomer gets special treatment there, as well, though I don't really want to think about it if I want to keep breakfast down).

I'm still laughing over the 'Cleveland sucks' statement. He's not one to mince words, is he? We change the Drew Carey theme song from Cleveland rocks to Cleveland sucks. It's most fitting. :loud:

[NetShrine]

Funny thing - If the Indians were the only team that wanted him - and he still wanted to pitch - he would change his tune in a heartbeat.

[Jen]

You're probably right.

And he'd wear a path from the Jake to the Flats after every home game, I'm sure.

[ChrisCary]

I distinctly remember before his trade to the Withe Sox him saying that he'd have no problem getting along with Valentine.
he didn't deny that they weren't best friends, but there was no LOSER talk.

Wells has a big damned mouth

[BuzzBuzzard]

Originally posted by ChrisCary
Wells has a big damned mouth You know what they say. Big mouth = Big belly. Well, not exactly, but..........

[ChrisCary]

Originally posted by BuzzBuzzard
You know what they say. Big mouth = Big belly. Well, not exactly, but..........

At least he's proportionate.

[NetShrine]

The ladies have an expression:

"Sometimes big feet just means big feet."

For David, sub mouth for feet in the above.

[jpalexa]

I guess it goes to show it isn't so much what you say as how (or where) you say it. I'll bet a good number of people agree with Wells -- I certainly do about Valentine, and if the fans were truly on Boomer about his recently-departed mom, then I side with Wells there, too.

Not quite John Rocker-esque so far this year, but it won't surprise me if Wells ventures into similar territory sometime soon....

[bagger015]

:) Like boomer as a player. and I admire people who say
it like it is. But ya got to use your head when in the spotlight. And drink less beer while in an interview. :eek:

[NetShrine]

:loud: Good one Bagger!
And, welcome to the forum! Look forward to your posts.

[BuzzBuzzard]

Originally posted by NetShrine
:loud: Good one Bagger!
And, welcome to the forum! Look forward to your posts. Yeah, Welcome Bagger. Just what this forum needs, another Yankee fan. Whose got my back?

Anyway, the more the merrier, even if it is Yankee fans.

[NetShrine]

Originally posted by BuzzBuzzard
Whose got my back?

You need the :guapo: to start helping you out more.

[jpalexa]

Wells says he'll retire if option is not picked up.
May 23, 2001

TORONTO (AP) -- David Wells plans to retire if his $10 million option for next season isn't guaranteed by the White Sox -- or any other team.

Struggling Chicago, on course to fall from first to last in the AL Central, is trying to trade the left-hander, the Chicago Tribune reported Wednesday.

"If my option is not picked up, I'm going to retire," Wells said before he lost 9-6 to Toronto, the team that traded him. "I'll be done. That's it."

Wells, 38, is making $9.25 million this season and his contract has a $10 million team option for next year.

The pitcher and Chicago general manager Ken Williams did not comment for the Tribune story, which cited sources who spoke on condition of anonymity.

The Tribune said Williams already had informed Wells the White Sox were looking to deal him, and that Wells replied he was ready to leave. Baseball's deadline for trades without waivers is July 31.

"Maybe I'll go to Montreal," Wells said Wednesday.

Wells, 3-5 with a 4.54 ERA, allowed a career-high 13 hits and eight runs in 5 1-3 innings as the White Sox fell to 0-8 on their road trip.

Toronto dealt Wells after he said Toronto fans "stink." While walking around Toronto on Tuesday, Wells said fans heckled him.

Chicago sent pitcher Mike Sirotka to Toronto in the Wells trade. Sirotka was found to have arm problems, the Blue Jays asked for the deal to be altered or rescinded, and commissioner Bud Selig upheld the trade.

Sirotka is out for the season following surgery.

Chicago acquired Wells because of his success in the postseason, but the White Sox are 14-29.

"If my option is not picked up, I'm going to retire," Wells said. "I'll be done. That's it."

Wells went on his weekly radio show earlier this season and criticized teammate Frank Thomas for not playing hurt. Those comments were made before Thomas had season-ending surgery for a torn triceps.

[Jen]

After his sorry performance last night, (Hello, what out is it???) maybe retirement's his best option. Unbelievable.

[BuzzBuzzard]

Last night shows you what type of character, or lack there of, that he has. When uninspired, he doesn't even try. There is no room in baseball for that.

[Jen]

True Buzz, and if he gets any bigger, there'll be no room in baseball for him, either.

[jpalexa]

Originally posted by BuzzBuzzard
Last night shows you what type of character, or lack there of, that he has. When uninspired, he doesn't even try. There is no room in baseball for that.

Maybe it is just my old, cynically, grumpy self, but it seems like there is a whole lot of uninspired baseball being played out there. Not all of it (the Twins are a refreshing exception), but just a feeling I get...especially watching the Braves. Anyone else feel this way?

[BuzzBuzzard]

I have seen my share of uninspired play by the Mets this year, but I don't attribute it to lack of trying. I am not sure where their problem lies, but lack of trying doesn't seem to be it.

[Mexicani Blue]

Originally posted by NetShrine


You need the :guapo: to start helping you out more.


Here I am to save the day!!!!! Things have been crazy for me at work, but I'm still here.

Met fans united. (in more ways than one :devil: )

Mex :guapo:

[jpalexa]

Originally posted by BuzzBuzzard
I have seen my share of uninspired play by the Mets this year, but I don't attribute it to lack of trying. I am not sure where their problem lies, but lack of trying doesn't seem to be it.

You know, I have that same feeling about the Braves -- not moving runners over, not being able to bunt, horrible lead-off hitting (swinging for the fences instead of slapping the ball in play), baserunning blunders, throwing to the wrong base, etc. -- in general, poor fundamentals. How much of this is the manager's responsibility vs. players just not executing?

[jpalexa]

Boomer could be a big Ass-tro....

Owner: White Sox have contacted Astros about Wells
May 24, 2001

HOUSTON (AP) -- Houston Astros owner Drayton McLane Jr. confirmed the Chicago White Sox have inquired about the team's interest in pitcher David Wells, two broadcast outlets reported Thursday.

``The White Sox have indicated they might be able to talk about that,'' McLane told KILT-AM and television station KRIV.

McLane went on to say he thought such a trade might mean parting with ``two or three really great minor-leaguers'' from the Astros' deep farm system.

McLane recalled the last time Houston traded prospects for a star left-handed pitcher: the 1999 trade-deadline deal for Randy Johnson, who left for the Arizona Diamondbacks that winter.

``Two of those pitchers (Freddy Garcia and John Halama) are now the backbone of the Seattle Mariners rotation,'' McLane said.

McLane cautioned there have been no formal discussions about Wells and that if the Astros were to trade for a pitcher, he might feel more comfortable waiting awhile before making such a deal.

Heading into Thursday's games, the Astros were in fourth place in the National League Central, 1 1/2 games behind St. Louis. The team's 4.67 ERA was 10th in the National League.

Wells is making $9.25 million this season and his contract has a $10 million team option for next year. Wells has said he would retire if the 2002 option was not picked up.

The defending AL Central champion White Sox are mired in last place. The Chicago Tribune reported this week the club is considering dealing the 38-year-old hurler, who is 3-5 with a 4.54 ERA.

[BuzzBuzzard]

Originally posted by jpalexa


You know, I have that same feeling about the Braves -- not moving runners over, not being able to bunt, horrible lead-off hitting (swinging for the fences instead of slapping the ball in play), baserunning blunders, throwing to the wrong base, etc. -- in general, poor fundamentals. How much of this is the manager's responsibility vs. players just not executing? It is all about the players not executing, but once habits form, it is the manager's job to correct them. Both the Bravos and the Mets seem to be waking up a little, too. Almost like the funk is starting to clear.

[jpalexa]

Funny you say that, because just last night I felt that the Mets might just be gearing up to make a run.

The Braves, on the other hand, have struggled to maintain their just-below-.500-record -- wins coming not from better play, but more from lucky breaks (a wild pitched run home, an opposing team error, etc.). I just don't feel...confident?...that they have gotten it turned around...still too many weaknesses.

But, then again, it is only May -- and the division is weaker as a whole. Maybe. But doubtful.

[jpalexa]

Originally posted by BuzzBuzzard
It is all about the players not executing, but once habits form, it is the manager's job to correct them. <snip>


I have never heard of MGR Bobby Cox, or any of the coaches, saying or doing one thing to "correct" lack of fundamentals. Come to think of it, the only manager I ever hear about doing that is the Twins' Tom Kelly...!

At any rate, spring training is a joke, and batting/fielding "practice" before the games is mostly loafing, from what I have seen. I'd like to see a manager crack down a bit on some of these high-priced prima donnas and kick some fundamentals and life into a team.

Yeah, right.

[BuzzBuzzard]

Originally posted by jpalexa
At any rate, spring training is a joke, and batting/fielding "practice" before the games is mostly loafing, from what I have seen. I'd like to see a manager crack down a bit on some of these high-priced prima donnas and kick some fundamentals and life into a team.:loud: :loud: :loud: :loud: :loud: Good one.

Dallas Green is about the last guy I can remember how had a 'my way or the higway' attitude.

[BuzzBuzzard]

Originally posted by jpalexa
Funny you say that, because just last night I felt that the Mets might just be gearing up to make a run.
is weaker as a whole. Maybe. But doubtful. I know last night was the Marlins, but Appier finally looked good even after getting hit in the head.

And even I can't say this with an entirely straight face, but Darren Bragg has played great baseball since being called up.

[NetShrine]

Getting back to Boomer - a caller on WFAN asked the hosts yesterday (one of them a Yankee broadcaster - who knows Boomer) if Boomer could be tanking it on purpose (to get out of Chicago).

Neither host seemed to think this was a wild notion. As one said "With him, anything like that is possible."

[mainsr]

Originally posted by BuzzBuzzard
Just what this forum needs, another Yankee fan. Whose got my back?

Hey, man, you covered me when I said Jeter's an inadequate SS. I owe you.

[BuzzBuzzard]

Originally posted by mainsr


Hey, man, you covered me when I said Jeter's an inadequate SS. I owe you. Excellent.

[jpalexa]

Let's see, would I rather have the Mets shortstop (Ordonez - .221/0/16) or the "inadequate" Yankees shortstop (Jeter - .324/4/25) in *my* lineup...?!? That's a toughie. I'll have to get back to you.

[NetShrine]

I'd rather have Rey Sanchez over Rey Ordonez!

[BuzzBuzzard]

Originally posted by jpalexa
Let's see, would I rather have the Mets shortstop (Ordonez - .221/0/16) or the "inadequate" Yankees shortstop (Jeter - .324/4/25) in *my* lineup...?!? That's a toughie. I'll have to get back to you.
Don't put words in my mouth. I never suggested that. All I said was that Ordonez is not as bad as you Yankee fans like to make him out to be. If I didn't know better, I'd say there is some sort of jealousy thing going on given how much you all like to ride him. That is peculiar to me since the Yanks have the best SS ever to play the game.

[jpalexa]

Buzz: Sorry for the confusion. The quote I was responding to, if you will notice, is from "mainsr," not you.

Actually, Ordonez *is* as bad as all of "us Yankee fans" make him out to be -- offensively, that is.

Yeah, jealous. That's it! It certainly explains why I am busting on a weak-hitting, deadbeat dad. You saw right through me. I'll have to be more clever next time.....

[NetShrine]

Time for Boomer and Re-Rey to go nighty night. I think we've said all that can be said on this one?

Thanks to all for a lively thread. :)