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Xanadu Dragon
03-04-2002, 11:43 AM
Is this domination, or what?

1960-1969 HOMERUN LEADERS AL

1 Harmon Killebrew 393
2 Norm Cash 278
3 Mickey Mantle 256
4 Rocky Colavito 242
5 Bob Allison 225
6 Al Kaline 210
7 Roger Maris 203
T8 Boog Powell 202
T8 Carl Yastrzemski 202
10 Leon Wagner 189

WiredTiger
03-04-2002, 01:01 PM
Originally posted by Xanadu Dragon
Is this domination, or what?

1960-1969 HOMERUN LEADERS AL

1 Harmon Killebrew 393
2 Norm Cash 278
3 Mickey Mantle 256
4 Rocky Colavito 242
5 Bob Allison 225
6 Al Kaline 210
7 Roger Maris 203
T8 Boog Powell 202
T8 Carl Yastrzemski 202
10 Leon Wagner 189

I always thought Killebrew was underrated. He definitely played his peak years right in the sixties.

My next question is who in the world is Leon Wagner?

Xanadu Dragon
03-04-2002, 01:14 PM
Originally posted by WiredTiger
My next question is who in the world is Leon Wagner?

http://www.pubdim.net/baseballlibrary/ballplayers/W/Wagner_Leon.stm

LeGrandOrange
03-04-2002, 03:21 PM
I'm amazed that Bob Allison is up there, quite frankly. Him and Killer made a nice combo.
Daddy Wags naturally surprises a lot of people with his inclusion...guess he was more then just a colorful nickname. :) I thought he was a base stealer, quite frankly.

Fuzzy Bear
03-04-2002, 06:51 PM
Allison died a few years ago, and had been forgotten, but when he came up he was a fast CF. If Mickey Mantle had not been active during Allison's prime, Bob would be more well remembered.

Harmon Killebrew is a Hall-of-Famer by ANY standard. I find it ridiculous that some people still argue this. Power, walks, defensive versatility (if not excellence). A winning combination from a winning ballplayer. Killer was a ballplayer's ballplayer and a man's man. How many guys can you say this about?

Fuzzy Bear
03-04-2002, 06:54 PM
Originally posted by Xanadu Dragon

1960-1969 HOMERUN LEADERS AL


2 Norm Cash 278


Norm Cash was the best 1B in the AL during the decade of the 1960s.

1. Is he HOF material? (Maybe)

2. Was he better than Tony Perez? (Yes!)

LeGrandOrange
03-04-2002, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by Fuzzy Bear
Allison died a few years ago, and had been forgotten, but when he came up he was a fast CF. If Mickey Mantle had not been active during Allison's prime, Bob would be more well remembered.

Harmon Killebrew is a Hall-of-Famer by ANY standard. I find it ridiculous that some people still argue this. Power, walks, defensive versatility (if not excellence). A winning combination from a winning ballplayer. Killer was a ballplayer's ballplayer and a man's man. How many guys can you say this about?

He was also a pitcher's worst nightmare. :)
So what if he hit .256 on his career. So what if he has a MERE 2,086 hits. Killebrew was FEARED, and 573 HR's will drive a point home quite clearly. Most of all, he was a great guy...not bad for a guy dubbed Killer.
Killebrew was the original McGwire, he just played for managers that had other options at 1B. Only other difference between the two is that Killebrew played in better uniforms. :p
Nevertheless, Killebrew is extremely worthy every way you look at it, and for anyone to question is ridiculous. I'm glad I don't know those kind of people. :)

SmedIndy
03-04-2002, 11:21 PM
They used to call him "The Fat Kid", as in "The Fat Kid took me over the wall Tuesday night".

He and Hondo (Frank Howard) incited Fear and Loathing amongst pitchers.

Only people who worship at the shrine of BA (all the Baseball Digest readers, no doubt) think Killebrew is second rate.

Xanadu Dragon
03-05-2002, 07:54 AM
I think Cobb used to call Ruth "fat" too.

Killer and Ruth were fat - but like in phat, not fat.

pathogan
03-05-2002, 08:22 AM
Originally posted by Fuzzy Bear
Allison died a few years ago, and had been forgotten, but when he came up he was a fast CF. If Mickey Mantle had not been active during Allison's prime, Bob would be more well remembered.

Harmon Killebrew is a Hall-of-Famer by ANY standard. I find it ridiculous that some people still argue this. Power, walks, defensive versatility (if not excellence). A winning combination from a winning ballplayer. Killer was a ballplayer's ballplayer and a man's man. How many guys can you say this about?

Great, fearsome hitter,dont know the story on Metro/or griffiths,dont remeber either being that easy hitters parks...I remember that horrific split at first base in the 1969 all star game, also

pathogan
03-05-2002, 08:24 AM
Originally posted by Fuzzy Bear


Norm Cash was the best 1B in the AL during the decade of the 1960s.

1. Is he HOF material? (Maybe)

2. Was he better than Tony Perez? (Yes!)
Plus he never wore a batting helmet...let some of the stylers today try that if they want a fashion statement.!...He'll never get in., im afraid

KCBOOMER
03-05-2002, 11:58 AM
You guys have got to be kidding me? There is really someone who doesn't think Killebrew is a bona fide HoF. Well if he isn't and if we could throw out all the non-pitchers in the HoF that weren't as good as him there would only be 20 or so guys left.

sweaver
03-05-2002, 09:47 PM
Makes you wonder how many homers Killer would hit if he played in this big-offense era. Could he break Ruth's record?

Fritz Buelow
03-05-2002, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by sweaver
Makes you wonder how many homers Killer would hit if he played in this big-offense era. Could he break Ruth's record?

Probably - same for Schmidt, Foxx, Ott, Williams. Timing is everything.