View Full Version : John Franklin "Home Run" Baker
Crash Course
09-14-2006, 12:02 PM
He played in the major leagues from 1908 to 1922.
nyy26wc
09-14-2006, 12:20 PM
Of course. He's a member of the most important group in the world--the Hall of Fame.
Plus he had a .307 career average.
6 years with a .300 average
3 years with 100 RBI
Golden Bear
09-14-2006, 01:25 PM
Quite possibly the best third baseman of the first half of the 20th century.
rc3000
09-14-2006, 02:12 PM
Although I don't have access to the RCAA figures, I thought I might expand on some of the other categories Mr Baker finished in the top ten according to baseball-reference:
7 OPS
9 HR (including 4 consecutive years leading the league)
7 Runs Created
7 Slugging Pct
7 Doubles
4 Triples
So I am voting yes
KCBOOMER
09-14-2006, 02:46 PM
He was first great 3B's of the modern era. Even 70+ years after his retirement he would still rank as a Top Ten 3B for offensive production alone. And he was an original member of Connie Mack's $100,000 infield.
mainsr
09-15-2006, 01:13 PM
Quite possibly the best third baseman of the first half of the 20th century.
I don't think there's anyone particularly close.
nyy26wc
09-15-2006, 01:53 PM
I don't think there's anyone particularly close.
Stan Hack.
But, after Hack and Baker, there's really nobody close to them.
CAREER
1900-1949
3B
RCAA RCAA
1 Stan Hack 306
2 Home Run Baker 303
3 Bob Elliott 203
4 Heine Groh 161
5 Harlond Clift 152
6 Whitey Kurowski 133
7 Heinie Zimmerman 122
8 Art Devlin 112
9 John McGraw 108
10 Red Smith 102
rc3000
09-15-2006, 02:53 PM
CAREER
1900-1949
3B
RCAA RCAA
1 Stan Hack 306
2 Home Run Baker 303
3 Bob Elliott 203
4 Heine Groh 161
5 Harlond Clift 152
6 Whitey Kurowski 133
7 Heinie Zimmerman 122
8 Art Devlin 112
9 John McGraw 108
10 Red Smith 102
I am guessing that Pie Traynor may be considered somewhat overrated:)
Just curious as to his RCAA was he even close to the top 10? I guess it is time for me to re-order the encyclopedia but I don't want to look like a suck up...
nyy26wc
09-15-2006, 03:34 PM
Traynor only had 75 RCAA.
YankeeLinks
09-15-2006, 04:31 PM
Hey, the guy was called "HOME RUN" Baker. Whether it was deserved or not, that alone should be enough.
rc3000
09-15-2006, 05:02 PM
Traynor only had 75 RCAA.
Thanks. That's it I am throwing out my 1976 Topps Card that had him listed as the greatest 3rd baseman of all-time
nyy26wc
09-15-2006, 05:45 PM
Thanks. That's it I am throwing out my 1976 Topps Card that had him listed as the greatest 3rd baseman of all-time
And I better remove this card from my store before I get sued for selling a fraudulent item. It's fraud to call Bob Bonner and Jeff Schneider future stars.
RascalJones
09-18-2006, 03:36 PM
I used to have that card, Lee. As a matter of fact, the memory of that card helped me in a game of 1980's Trivial Pursuit over the weekend.
crazydiamond
09-18-2006, 11:05 PM
I desire said card
I've been a huge Ripken fan (despite living in California) since 1991
Nuclear Dish
09-21-2006, 04:44 AM
When I was a little kid, someone told me that before Babe Ruth came around, Home Run Baker had earned his nickname because he was the pre-Ruth home run king. When I got older, I found that this was far from true. He wasn't the all-time leader, the active leader, or even the single season champ in even a single season, let alone overall. Which all leads me to question how he got his nickname.
YankeeLinks
09-21-2006, 09:57 AM
When I was a little kid, someone told me that before Babe Ruth came around, Home Run Baker had earned his nickname because he was the pre-Ruth home run king. When I got older, I found that this was far from true. He wasn't the all-time leader, the active leader, or even the single season champ in even a single season, let alone overall. Which all leads me to question how he got his nickname.
From BaseballLibrary.com:
Baker earned his memorable nickname in the 1911 World Series, when he hit game-winning home runs on successive days against the Giants' future Hall of Fame pitchers Rube Marquard and Christy Mathewson.
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