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Crash Course
12-21-2004, 01:10 PM
Was this one of the all-time fluke seasons?

nyy26wc
12-21-2004, 06:54 PM
Not even close.

Cerv had 36 RCAA that year and 54 in his career.

But, his 54 career RCAA only rank 165th for lowest figure by a player who had a 30+ season (127th since 1900)

The top 10--

1) Jack O'Connor, 30, 1890, -196 career
2) Billy Shindle, 30, 1890, -148 career
3) Fred Pfeffer, 33, 1884, -124 career
4) Hick Carpenter, 39, 1882, -107 career
5) Jack Burdock, 33, 1883, -90 career
6) Lave Cross, 34, 1894, -87 career
7) Charlie Grimm, 30, 1923, -64 career
8) Red Schoendienst, 36, 1953, -59 career
9) Edgar Renteria, 33, 2003, -50 career
10) John Cassidy, 34, 1877, -49 career

The top 10, since 1900--

1) Charlie Grimm, 30, 1923, -64 career
2) Red Schoendienst, 36, 1953, -59 career
3) Edgar Renteria, 33, 2003, -50 career
4) Charles Johnson, 33, 2000, -47 career
T5) Pete Fox, 30, 1935, -40 career
T5) Cito Gaston, 37, 1970, -40 career
T7) Al Cowens, 33, 1977, -35 career
T7) Nellie Fox, 36, 1957, -35 career
9) Eddie Lake, 34, 1945, -29 career
10) Woody English, 30, 1930, -25 career

Both Renteria and Johnson are good bets to break Grimm's record.

Crash Course
12-21-2004, 10:53 PM
Edgar Renteria, hmmmmmmmmm.........

KCBOOMER
12-22-2004, 10:01 AM
I went to an A's - Indians game in old Municipal Stadium (the Kansas City) on 07/03/1959. Herb Score was pitching for for the Indians. I don't remember which arsonist was pitching for the A's. I checked Retrosheet and it turns out there is a reason I don't remember who the A's starter was. It was the legendary Howie Reed. I still have no idea who that is. Anyway the Indians rolled a 5 spot at the A's in the top of first.

In the bottom of the first the A's manage to load the bases bring Cerv to the plate. He hit a line drive GSHR to dead center. You might think this is no big deal, but it was 421 feet to dead center with a 21 foot high wall that had a set of foghorns on top of it. The ball went right over those foghorns just barely clearing them. A mighty wallop indeed.

Surprisingly this was all the scoring until the 9th inning when the the Indians pushed over another 3 runs to ice the game 8-4.