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Duque
01-02-2002, 02:03 PM
Two great Hall of Fame outfielders both saw their career averages drop below .300 while facing the same pitcher. They never broke the .300 mark again. Which outfielders were they, and which pitcher was it against?
Xanadu Dragon
01-02-2002, 02:21 PM
One of them Mickey?
YankeeLinks
01-02-2002, 02:34 PM
Could one be Kaline?
Duque
01-02-2002, 03:03 PM
The two are Mantle and Kaline - good job XD and YL.

Now who was the pitcher who dropped them both below .300?

Hint: He's not a Hall of Famer.
Skip
01-02-2002, 03:07 PM
Guess Frank Robinson and Al Kaline, though F-Rob would probably have been primarily a DH when it happened.
Skip
01-02-2002, 03:08 PM
Oops, our posts must have crossed. No idea on the pitcher.
Xanadu Dragon
01-02-2002, 06:11 PM
Originally posted by Duque
Now who was the pitcher who dropped them both below .300?



Someone who was in the AL from 1968 to 1974, not in the HOF, not on the Yanks or Tigers, tought to hit...........hmmmmm.

Wilbur Wood?
LeGrandOrange
01-02-2002, 07:37 PM
Dave McNally?
Duque
01-02-2002, 08:57 PM
Not Wood or McNally.

Mantle went from .2995 to .2994 in 1968, it happened to Kaline in 1973.
LeGrandOrange
01-02-2002, 10:18 PM
Jim Kaat?
YankeeLinks
01-02-2002, 11:06 PM
I'll guess Palmer, though it doesn't have to be a great pitcher. All he needed was two particular outs.
LeGrandOrange
01-02-2002, 11:14 PM
But Palmer's in the hall...unless there's another Palmer that played in that time.
Yogi#8Fan
01-02-2002, 11:20 PM
Lowell Palmer?
BBapplepie
01-02-2002, 11:22 PM
The hot pitcher during that time frame was Mickey LOL Lolich.
LeGrandOrange
01-02-2002, 11:25 PM
Lolich was a Tiger though...eliminated from consideration for the question.
YankeeLinks
01-02-2002, 11:31 PM
I forgot the non-HOF restriction
Duque
01-02-2002, 11:32 PM
Not Kaat, Palmer, or Lolich.

Though he was, at one time, a teammate of Kaat.
Xanadu Dragon
01-03-2002, 11:16 AM
Bert?
Duque
01-03-2002, 12:58 PM
Not Blyleven - but he was a teammate of his too.
Xanadu Dragon
01-03-2002, 01:20 PM
Jim Perry?
Duque
01-03-2002, 01:24 PM
Not Perry either.

This is the clue that I finally needed to get it: He's most famous for his years in Boston.
Xanadu Dragon
01-03-2002, 01:32 PM
Tiant?
Duque
01-03-2002, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by Xanadu Dragon
Tiant?

That's him. Whiffed Mantle on June 28, 1968, to lower the Mick's career average to .299 permanently, and then whiffed Kaline on September 23, 1973, to push his average down to .299 as well.
Xanadu Dragon
01-03-2002, 01:40 PM
It's great to be with a weener.
CubFan7125
01-03-2002, 01:54 PM
Originally posted by Xanadu Dragon
It's great to be with a weener. Steve, are you the smartest human alive or just among the top 10 or so.
Xanadu Dragon
01-03-2002, 02:06 PM
Originally posted by CubFan7125
Steve, are you the smartest human alive or just among the top 10 or so.

:loud: Aww, com'on.