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Crash Course
04-01-2004, 06:31 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/01/sports/baseball/01SAND.html?ex=1081486800&en=4b5988c50f148578&ei=5040&partner=MOREOVER

I wonder - if Larry or John H participate in this, WWBD?
gyb13
04-01-2004, 09:11 AM
like the rose trial, methinks this kinda stuff is silly
rpackrat
04-01-2004, 02:59 PM
Why wasn't I at all surprised to read in that article that John Gotti was a Yankee fan?
Craig S.
04-01-2004, 07:57 PM
What's the purpose? Do they really think they're going to change minds one way or the other?
Crash Course
04-01-2004, 10:21 PM
Dunno Craig. I guess they have some dead air time now that DREAM JOB is done?

Why wasn't I at all surprised to read in that article that John Gotti was a Yankee fan?

Alex Rodriguez grew up a diehard Mets fan. Just proves that fans of winners can become losers and fans of losers can become winners. It's a wacky world. ;)
JamesI
04-02-2004, 12:22 AM
The Rose trial was probably profitable, so the decided to hit another baseball "bad guy." At least the target is appropriate. Very few baseball fans are indifferent to the Yanks, love them or hate them, little in between.
cubsin04
04-02-2004, 04:37 AM
What a waste of time this thing is going to be. I know I won't be watching.
pathogan
04-02-2004, 08:01 AM
...dont you think..Play ball already...oops,they did,didnt theyZ?
rpackrat
04-02-2004, 02:27 PM
"Alex Rodriguez grew up a diehard Mets fan. Just proves that fans of winners can become losers and fans of losers can become winners."

Oh, and what has ARod won?
Crash Course
04-02-2004, 02:55 PM
Not biting. Let's try and stay on topic on this one. Thanks.
Crash Course
04-05-2004, 07:42 AM
http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/yankees/ny-spynotes053741092apr05,0,2545714.story

Yankees react -

"I'm sure it will be entertainment," Alex Rodriguez said. "They're doing it with the New York Yankees because they know people will watch, so that's contradictory in its own way."

Manager Joe Torre has never hid his problems with ESPN, so it's no surprise he was critical of the program. "Everybody criticizes the Yankees, yet everybody wants them on television," he said. "George Steinbrenner generates the revenue and he has the right to spend it any way he wants and pay the penalty."

Could not agree more.
PianoMonkey
04-05-2004, 08:32 AM
The game is unfair. The Yankees just play to win, is all. And people watch because they win. A lot.
nyy26wc
04-11-2004, 08:30 PM
I recorded it and watched it late afternoon.

If we're supposed to follow the rules of law, in which a juror can only consider what was heard during the trial, then I completely disagree with the verdict.

I thought Dersowitz, who was prosecuting the Yankees, kicked Cutler's butt. Cutler's cross examination of Dersowitz's witnesses left much to be desired. Cutler put in some effective evidence through his witnesses, but not enough to win the case.

So, based on the evidence presented, I'd have to find the Yankees guilty.

But, if I could beyond the evidence presented, I agree with the verdict.
Crash Course
04-11-2004, 11:10 PM
So, they were found not guilty?
nyy26wc
04-12-2004, 11:57 AM
So, they were found not guilty?

Not guilty, by a 10-2 vote.
Crash Course
04-12-2004, 12:08 PM
Anyone interesting testify?
mgoettsche
04-14-2004, 01:52 AM
I recorded it and watched it late afternoon.

If we're supposed to follow the rules of law, in which a juror can only consider what was heard during the trial, then I completely disagree with the verdict.

I thought Dersowitz, who was prosecuting the Yankees, kicked Cutler's butt. Cutler's cross examination of Dersowitz's witnesses left much to be desired. Cutler put in some effective evidence through his witnesses, but not enough to win the case.

So, based on the evidence presented, I'd have to find the Yankees guilty.

But, if I could beyond the evidence presented, I agree with the verdict.

Interesting...I came away with an opposite opinion, largely because Dersowitz could not overcome the fact that the Marlins, Angels, and D-Backs have won the past 3 WS...he never presented an adequate response to this, and cited this as his biggest problem at the end of the trial. I agree that Cutler was not as effective as he could have been...his argument that the Yankees have a responsibility to carry on their great tradition was just stupid.

Highlight for me was Goose Gossage on the stand. Cutler tried to show that Pittsburgh couldn't compete with the Yankees for his services on the FA market, but he couldn't have used a more poor choice. Pittsburgh was a perennial contender in the NL and won the WS just a couple of years after choosing not to bid for him. He tried to gloss over this, but at least one of the jurors caught on.

The unintended comedy factor went to the jury when each of the jurors was invited to share their opinion. Of the 12 of them, only 4 could put together a reasonably intelligent opinion.

I would have been curious if the results would have been different if the trial was not held within spitting distance of Yankee Stadium.