Jose Guillen for Aaron Harang

[sweaver]

The A's get an outfielder having a career year. The Reds get a pitcher who might actual give them some quality starts.

Could help both clubs.

[Craig S.]

Considering how cheap acquiring Guillen was for the Reds, turning him into Harang seems like a pretty good deal.

Any idea how good Harang is supposed to be?

[Wolf Hopper]

17 BB in 332 PA - - yeah, Guillen just fits perfect into that OBA model, huh? :willis:

[OaktownTribeFan]

Beane isn't dogmatic about OBP. Guillen is a power hitting OF, which the A's lack.

Should be interesting to see how long it takes to adjust to the AL, however.

[JamesI]

overall I'm not sure on this move. Is Guillen really worth a potentially good pitcher. Seems to be banking a lot on this year.

[LeGrandOrange]

With an OPS over 1 I don't think that Beane would care about patience.

I kind of like this deal even though I still hope the A's lose out in the pennant race. For once, they might have a passable OF now. Guillen knows the AL and doesn't really need to adjust much (although he'll have to learn how to be a really good player in the AL for the first time), and even if he blows as a hitter, he still has a rocket arm. A baserunner kill or two could make a big difference in a playoff chase.

[satchel]

I wonder if Guillen will stay as good as he's been this year, or even close to it. He's not just had a career year, he's leaps and bounds better than his career averages. But I remember when he came up with Pirates, he was all hype and potential, and a huge disappointment.

[pathogan]

..about Jg, too, is this an abberation...how much more pitching do the A's need at this point, BTW?

[cubfan33]

Guillen isn't signed past this year, so Beane doesn't give a rat's behind what he does next year. He'll be a free agent and some idiot will look at his 03 numbers and give him a Jeffrey Hammonds deal. Beane traded away a guy he couldn't use and a useful guy he stole for something he needed.

Not F***ing A, but maybe a B.

And he ain't done.

[sweaver]

Beane is getting the last piece of Guillen's career year, which might propel the A's to the playoffs. After that, who knows what will happen?

Harang is a back-of-the-rotation starter, even at 6'6" more of a control/finesse guy. The Reds also get Joe Valentine, the AAA closer the A's got from the Chisox in the Koch trade, and Jeff Bruksch, an A-ball pitcher.

Guillen was gone after the year, and the Reds desperately needed some arms. Any arms.

[SmedIndy]

Guillen was gone after the year, and the Reds desperately needed some arms. Any arms.

You may as well call up the entire Louisville team up now....

[SmedIndy]

17 BB in 332 PA - - yeah, Guillen just fits perfect into that OBA model, huh? :willis:


Are you jealous??? Always with the jibe to Beane....

[sweaver]

You may as well call up the entire Louisville team up now....
They should have flipped the pitching staffs around May....

[Skip]

You may as well call up the entire Louisville team up now....That's what I'm waiting for too. My last few games may well end up watching a 'new' team.

[Wolf Hopper]

Are you jealous??? Always with the jibe to Beane....

Jealous? Noooooo. Not impressed by this deal at all.

Jibe? Sure, I dislike all P-diddy wannabes, whether they wear 45 for the Bosox or sit in the GM chair for the A's............Puffy-like arrorance wears thin with me in a hurry. Bad boys are just punks to me. :stinker:

To quote Trot Nixon: ''You want to know why the Yankees win so many championships? I'll tell you why. Everybody shows up ready to play baseball ... They don't come strolling in, pimping around and doing this and doing that."

:stinker: Sorry, this is all just a fake to slide in this quote one more time - one of my all time favs...............

[jstu9]

I guess I'm not surprised that Guillen finally put it together. When he was in Pittsburgh, they mentioned Raul Mondesi when they mentioned Guillen. Strong arm, good average, no walks, good power.

Of course I'm surprised he is hitting *so* well but I'm not surprised he put it together.

Of course I still think Chad Hermansen and Ron Wright can put it together as well. :)

[cubfan33]

Guillen = fluke. His VORP is higher than Soriano's right now and breakouts without base are often going to fall as fast as they came up.

I think Guillen in 2004 will be the next Jeffrey Hammonds when he was signed out of a big year in Colorado.

[Wolf Hopper]

Guillen isn't signed past this year, so Beane doesn't give a rat's behind what he does next year.

Today, as Jose was not offered, we know this is true.